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Suitcase 2.1?

I'm working on a personal project to build the ultimate Mini vMac setup and as part of that I kind of need a font manager. Given that System 6 doesn't like huge numbers of active fonts, I'm thinking that a font manager should be part of the package. The site has Suitcase 3, but AFAIK, it won't work on "plain " 68000-based machines or even System 6, at all. Suitcase 2.1, on the other hand, is known to work on older systems, so if anyone has a copy, I'd really appreciate it.

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When I was using System6, I was quite happy with Apple's Font/DA Mover, but that will not be an option for you, I suppose?

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I guess it could work, though I've heard that using Font/DA Mover too much can ocasionally scramble the System File.

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Suitcase 2.1 is definitely working on 68020 with System 6. Should also work no problem with 68000. I have version 2.14p3 (from memory). I have it backed up on multiple CDs as it was so important to me. I also believe 2.1 is here on the site, and a 2.14p3 patcher should be located on the internet.

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Suitcase 2,

or Suitcase II (a 40K system extension that puta menu bar icon on the top right, giving access to the functionality )?

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I looked on the site before making the request. It's not here (only 3.0 is)

If you could post your copy, I'd be really happy.

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@bertyboy - "a 40K system extension that puta menu bar icon on the top right"

Top left, but definitely Suitcase II, also possibly 2.13p4, not 2.14p3 Smile

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Mmm, I'm not sure of the versioning here. Along with Suitcase II, I have a Suitcase II Updater that updates it to v1.2.10, "which is required for Sysytem 7" as it says. That's what I'll upload.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FQ88GHBG

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I believe I am correct, some quotes from other sites:


Suitcase II and Fonts
Suitcase II (version 2.14 and earlier) has a known incompatibility with PCI-bus Macs (7200, 7500, 8500, 9500). Upgrade to version 3.0, or alternative programs are Master Juggler 2.0 from Alsoft or Adobe Type Manager 4.0.
Normally, the problem manifests as you being able to load fonts with Suitcase as normal, but Adobe Type Manager doesn't find the Postscript font file and the Postscript font is not downloaded to the printer at print time, so you get blocky screen display and bitmapped printing.
One suggestion for a fix is to put all of the Postscript font files into System Folder:Fonts, and use Suitcase II only for enabling and disabling the screen fonts. Others have reported success on PCI Macs with 2.14p3 as opposed to 2.14 (this is not my experience, however). Another suggestion is to use Master Juggler - By the way, a copy of Master Juggler is included with the Corel Gallery II clip art package, which makes it a very good value.
Hanging at startup, or when opening Quark or Illustrator, or at print time is more typical of a corrupted type font. The reason it looks like Suitcase II or Master Juggler is the problem is that when Suitcase or Master Juggler are removed, the bad font no longer loads. Try this: re-install Suitcase from the original disks but Close all fonts in the Suitcase sets. Chances are, you won't hang. Now, it is a matter of elimination to identify, delete and re-install the bad font file(Drunk from the original font disks.

Other things to look out for:
Sometimes, usually through user error, a Postscript font file (rather than screen font) gets added to a Suitcase set. You can identify these by their 5.3.3 naming convention (5 characters for the main font name, then 3 characters each for style names, no punctuation. Example: Garamond Bold Condensed = GaramBolCon) These will hang the machine; the fix is simply to delete them (Command -X) from Suitcase's font sets.
The font files (screen and Postscript) are not allowed to be compressed. If you have DiskDoubler, AutoDoubler or SpaceSaver, check that the font files are not compressed, and that they are Excluded from any automatic compression routines.

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"You will probably need to use a font utility like MasterJuggler or Suitcase (we presently use Suitcase 2.14p3)"

I will supply the Sytem Extension if needed!

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This works great in my Mini vMac Setup. It loads and unloads Fonts and DAs like a champ and seems to have no problems dealing with fonts gets along great with Adobe Type Manager 2 for great font support with suitable low memory requirements.

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I have a copy of the original SuitCase II (ver 1.2.12) floppy disk. I will upload a Disk Copy 4.2 image