Problem: Installing 540MB Fujitsu HD in a LCII

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2011, May 21 - 1:10pm

MacBeth

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Problem: Installing 540MB Fujitsu HD in a LCII

I'm having big problems to initialize and have the drive show up in the Apple HD SC setup program. I suppose it is either a SCSI ID-issue or a termination issue. My old Apple branded 40MB Conner drive has no jumpers to set, so I guess Apple got a special version of the drive. The Fujitsu drive I want to replace this with, has many jumpers to set SCSI ID and termination power, but I have tried every combination to no avail. Anyone who can shed a light on this and help me resolve the issue and get the drive to work, please come forward

The Fujitsu drive is new and unused (new old stock), so I don't expect it to be faulty. Fujitsu model number is M2684SAU (part nr. CA01237-B141G)

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2011, May 21 - 1:21pm

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Are you using a patched version of Apple HD SC Setup? If your Fujitsu drive isn't Apple branded you'll need one to initialize it.

The 520MB Quantum drive in my LC III isn't Apple-branded and when I got it, it was using some third-party driver. I re-initialized it with a patched HD SC Setup and it's been working fine ever since. I just can't remember if the drive should at least show up in the unpatched HD SC Setup (in Drive Setup it will show the drive but say it is unsupported). Does it show up in SCSIProbe?

2011, May 21 - 1:38pm

MacBeth

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OK, I completely forgot about that option. I presume this will solve the problem. I haven't tried SCSI Probe either, so I'll make sure to try these tools and see if I can get the drive initialized finally. Thanks a lot for the fast and poignant reply.

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2011, May 22 - 9:59am

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Yeah, when I bought new SCSI drives from my old IIsi and IIci, I used FWB Hard Disk Toolkit (available here) to format it. Apple HD Setup is rather lightweight.

2011, May 22 - 11:41pm

MacBeth

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OK, I got SCSI Probe running and it can see the drive. I also made a bootdisk with FWB HD Toolkit on (v1.6). HDT sees the drive, but couldn't initialize it, so I was told to format the drive. It was supposed to take "approximately 33 minutes", but it has now been running almost twice as long. Should I be alarmed at this stage?

Edit: HDT now finally says "The formatting process was aborted with an error. Formatting did not finish sucessfully".

The error is summed up like this:

SCSI Error : Check condition
Sense key : Medium error
Additional sense data : Unrecovered read error.

This means the drive is beyond hope right?

EDIT2 : Strangely enough the drive seems to be formatted regardless of the error reported during (or at the end of) formatting. I managed to create a partition and now I'm testing the drive to see if there are errors and/or bad blocks.

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2011, May 23 - 9:50am

MacBeth

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I finally got the drive working, but with a few errors on a some of the last blocks. Would it be an idea to try another low-level format to get rid of these? Installation of system 7.1 went by without incident.

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2011, May 23 - 12:07pm

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I think Hard Disk Toolkit has an option to reallocate bad sectors when formatting/initializing. If you can find that, it should mark any bad sectors as unusable. That will prevent any data getting put on them at a later date and being lost.

Drive Setup can do this too, but it has to be patched and you'd also need to boot from a 7.5.x floppy to run it as it isn't 7.1 compatible. So while you have HDT handy, try that first.

2011, May 23 - 12:30pm

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If you don´t mind to do everything all over again, you might try another utility for low level format.
The old Adaptec utility for DOS SCSI drives was good, and so is Gnome Partition Editor.
Rather a long shot I´m afraid.
I recall similar features with HDT as you reported. Very long processing time with doubtful results.
I would try the patched HD SC Setup. I believe it was even working with System6.

2011, May 23 - 5:49pm

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HDT reported 3 blockerrors on another scan I just made. Those were as someone up here said, automatically remapped and won't make trouble. I guess I'll settle for that, when I think about the drive being about 16 years old, even though it supposedly is new old stock. Thanks to all who commented on this thread.

Regards from MacBeth