i searched on this website and couldnt find it. i know its discontinued because lismore systems has all their focus on guest pc, which we all know wont run on MacOS 9. Google says that BLPE 1.8(the demo, which is NOT what i need) is on lismoresystems.com but it wasnt there for download either, nor can i find any links on where all the downloads for blue label power emulator have been moved. p.s. i did find BLPE 1.7 on a hotline server, but since the mouse doesnt work in the emulator, its useless. i found out on google that 1.8 solves the mouse problem. so, if somebody could please upload it, i would appreciate it a lot!
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2010, April 28 - 8:34pm
#1
Please upload Blue Label Power Emulator 1.8!
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2010, May 1 - 12:25pm
#2
I've put this up at RapidShare for you.
http://rapidshare.com/files/382281108/Blue-Label-18-sit.zip
I don't want to put it up at Macintosh Garden because I'm almost ashamed to say I purchased this POS back in 2001 or so and I don't think it merits archiving. Anybody who thinks otherwise can DL from the above link and archive it if they wish. Feel free.
Even Connectix Virtual PC version _1.0_ is better IMHO and you can get more advanced VPC's in this web site.
MD5 Sum and name of the archive at Rapidshare.
a0092daf4cc4cc720eef6ef4105ee4ce *Blue-Label-18-sit.zip
Caveat: I don't have the installer serial for this and you will get asked for one. I've lost this along with many other more useful items back in my "great crash of '04" 
Wouldn't surprise me if you could locate one somewhere tho'. Good luck.
I'll remove this item from RS in 14 days from now.
2010, May 2 - 7:55am
#3
well i appreciate the download, but the serial of course, is required for installation. and no, i dont have that (if i did, id probably also already have the blue label which i obviously didnt before just now). tried lookin for it on google, but it turned out kinda like how my search for the BLPE did: zero relevant results. every serial is for windows software as far as i can tell, and that serial box thing wont be of much help bein that the last os 9 version i found was from 4-2004 and that only lists up to BLPE 1.6 and it doesnt take rocket science to figure out that wont work. hopefully somebody with os x will see this and extract the serial from serial box and post it in a comment. i would upload BLPE 1.8 but i dont think itd be right to give people sans-serial software(say that 5x fast! 
). i know i wouldnt like it if i had found a good program only to find out it cant be unlocked. thats just like how this .toast and .cdr crap i find on here gets on my nerves because its not an installer and i dont have a burner. oh, and my experience with usin virtual pc 1.0 was shitty...it froze my computer and i had to power off the button. virtual pc 2.0-4.0 wouldnt work because of that toast/cdr garbage i just mentioned and 5.0 requires 9.1 or higher which i cant upgrade to because i get that dreaded "cant be installed over the cpu specific version on your newer computer" message. see, i used to have 9.2.1 a while back through apple's website but i ran into some problem(cant remember what it was) and i had to use my 9.0 system restore cd and now i cant re-upgrade. there has to be some 9.1 installer hack or somethin that can help with gettin it back on here. softwindows is crap as well, only the mouse works but windows 95/98 both hang on the reboot in the setup program.
2010, May 2 - 10:29am
#4
only lists up to BLPE 1.6 and it doesnt take rocket science to figure out that wont work
There are no serials in Seria Box for BLPE after v1.6. As a rocket scientist, I suggest you try all the serials provided by SB.
i dont think itd be right to give people sans-serial software
I sure the lawyers representing the software publisher would agree, but not in the way you are imagining. Of course the remit of the site is not to "give" software to anyone, whether it requires a serial or not, it's about the preservation of Mac software. Many of us upload our own softwares, and moany of those require a serial, but there's no way I'd be prepared to load my own serial, that I had registered my copy with the original publisher. Even more so if I plan to continue using it.
just like how this .toast and .cdr crap i find on here gets on my nerves
You'll find that nearly all disc images are .toast or .iso. Where they have been loaded as .cdr - and I've had to do one or two like that - it's because .toast yields an unusable copy. Still, a google search, or even just a search on this site, would show you that OS9 Disk Copy v6.4 and v6.5 can mount (uncompressed, unencrypted) OSX .dmg files. If it's not too much trouble, perhaps you could try them.
and i dont have a burner
Maybe you need to spend the $15 to get yourself a new CD burner, or spend only $5 on eBay on a used one.
It sounds like you have serious issues with the setup on your Mac, long before you get anywhere near Toast, or this site. Honestly, fix them and things will start to work better. If you have issues in upgrading, post details and we'll help.
2010, May 3 - 4:26am
#5
> the serial of course, is required for installation. and no, i dont have that
Version 1.7 serials work with 1.8 (if of any help).
> ... thats just like how this .toast and .cdr crap i find on here gets on my
> nerves because its not an installer and i dont have a burner.
I can understand your frustration, but there are work-arounds for those, even if you don't have a burner (see below).
> virtual pc 2.0-4.0 wouldnt work because of that toast/cdr garbage i just mentioned and
> 5.0 requires 9.1
Heres a tip I learnt thru trial and error that you can use. It may help you with your dilemma.
Requires any Mac OS, from version 7.0 to 9.2.2; Disk Copy 6.1 or newer; and a program to help change the file type and creator of an ".iso" or ".toast" disk image file, such as "Creator Changer 2.8.4" (which is built for this task) and found under the Apps "C" section of the Garden.
Take a ".iso" or ".toast" disk image icon and drag it onto Creator Changer's icon and change the "Creator Type" to "ddsk" (all lower case without the quotes), then change the "File Type" to "dimg" (again, all lower case and without the quotes). Make sure too, when you enter the ddsk and dimg parts, that you don't mistakenly add a space after the last letter of each type. These types must be 4 characters only with no added trailing space. Click OK to make the change.
Now you can double-click the ".iso" or ".toast" file and it will mount on the desktop as a "Disk Copy" Read/Write disk image. Being a read/write image you can add or delete files to the mounted image if you wanted to, so this little trick can be very useful in many ways. It possibly works with ".cdr" too but I've only tested this on ".iso" and ".toast" so far (works great on those).
Anyway its a good trick for those image files where you play a game and it requires the CD to be mounted. Or you don't have a burner and you want to install a program located on a disk image.
You can apply these changes to the VPC 2 .toast image and get to run the install from the image, and do the same with the VPC 4 .iso to update to that.
Much better to have VPC than that nasty old BPLE 
2010, May 3 - 4:37pm
#6
Requires any Mac OS, from version 7.0 to 9.2.2; Disk Copy 6.1 or newer; and a program to help change the file type and creator of an ".iso" or ".toast" disk image file, such as "Creator Changer 2.8.4" (which is built for this task) and found under the Apps "C" section of the Garden.
This is a hot hint about Disk Copy 6.1 to 6.3.
Disk Copy version 6.5 (also available here) mounts .cdr (.toast) without playin' around with Creator Changer applications like ResEdit.
2010, May 5 - 5:59am
#7
i did discover that the blpe 1.7 serial works (wow!) in blpe and i also found out that if i disable usb overdrive i can use the mouse in blpe, but that doesnt fix the internet not workin in windows. windows detects the ne2000 adapter but theres still no ethernet on that side (but the mac side works fine of course) other than not bein able to re-install 9.1 (still cant understand how the installer thinks my mac os version is "cpu specific"(huh? wasnt os 9 made to support anything that it came installed on? i didnt upgrade from an earlier os if that makes a difference) or how an old mac is a "newer computer" when its clearly not), dont know what my "serious issues" are or how to fix them (have to know what to fix and how) but here are some details: imac g3 350mhz 6.34 gb hard drive 7.96 mb disk cache virtual memory is 385 mb / 384 mb ram it has rom revision $77D.45f5 boot rom version 1.2f2 mac os rom file version 3.1.1 video memory 8 mb backside L2 cache 512 kb ethernet 100 mbps open transport is on appletalk is on tcp/ip is on system folder is mac os 9.0 US.
my computer works fairly well but sometimes programs will freeze or crash. (i wonder if vpc 1.0 causes other peoples machines to lock up every time its launched, no matter how much memory is given to it. most apps dont crash if i give them more memory usually, unless its flash or java in a browser which slows it down a lot or completes freezes the program and sometimes the whole machine no matter the amount of memory i give it)
2010, May 5 - 7:07am
#8
Good start. And now we know (nearly) which iMac it is, we might be able to help.
We NEARLY know because there were two models of 350MHz iMac as you've described:
A Blueberry (pale) Blue model called the Clot Loading, or SL, that came with Mac OS 8.5.1 or OS 8.6, or
An Indigo (dark) Blue model called the Summer 2000, that came with Mac OS 9.0.4
The SL came with a 6GB disk, the latter with 7GB, so based on your 6.34GB disk description (a 7GB disk should show as 6.68GB) I'd say it was the latter. But if it's the SL, let us know.
The only issue I can see is that you may not be installing the correct OS9.1 update for the currently installed OS9.0, ie. perhaps trying to install "International English" 9.1 on top of "US English" 9.0.
Here's the page to check what's available and download the correct one: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75103
I'll do the same for OS9.2.1 and OS9.2.2 if this turns out to be the issue.
2010, May 6 - 1:31am
#9
> not bein able to re-install 9.1 (still cant understand how the installer
> thinks my mac os version is "cpu specific"
You are unable to update to 9.1 because you are likely using an install CD built for a specific Mac family which doesn't include your machine. - Either get a non-specific installation CD or get the generic 9.x updates from Apple - which are still available as a free DL from here:
http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates...
To upgrade your current setup - DL "Mac OS 9.1 Update" and install that first, also DL the "Mac OS 9.2.1 Update" and install that to update your Mac to 9.2.1 after installing the 9.1 update.
> i wonder if vpc 1.0 causes other peoples machines to lock up
VPC 1 is not compatable with Mac OS 8.5 or newer (may even be 8.1 or newer). It is little wonder that it freezes your Mac, if you have attempted to run this on 9.x
To have VPC working on Mac OS 9 you need to have VPC 2.1.3 or newer
You can have VPC 4 running on your current set-up and ethernet will work from the VPC.
HTH
2010, May 6 - 3:52am
#10
ok let me explain this. i do have the slot loader but its neither one that you described. mine is one of those all-in-1 crt imacs that came in different colors. (mine specifically is a green color but that doesnt really matter, does it?) when i powered it on the first time after takin it out of the box, it was preinstalled with 9.0, not 9.0.4. i swear i did try to install the correct one and like i said, before in the past i was able to install 9.1 and then 9.2.1 but then i had to downgrade with my system restore cd of 9.0 because i was havin some time of problem. but the interestin thing is that i was able to upgrade to 9.0.4 with the apple website. i dont know the benefits of 9.0.4 over 9.0 though. is it any more stable?
2010, May 6 - 3:57am
#11
i am not usin an install cd to install 9.1, i am usin the free update from the apple site. i did notice that when i installed 9.2.1 in the past it asked me if i wanted to upgrade my hard drive driver. that doesnt cause problems when tryin to re-install the updates after downgradin to 9.0, does it? thanks for clearin up that vpc thing. i feel so stupid for tryin to run that old version now. i will use vpc 4 then.
2010, May 6 - 5:14am
#12
There shouldn't be a problem, tho' obviously there must be a problem somewhere if you can't do those updates. The 9.1 updater updates a Mac running OS 9.0 and 9.0.4, the 9.2.1 update will only update Macs running 9.1 so you need to update to 9.1 from 9.0 first.
If it still won't let you update then perhaps you should consider backing up your data and do a fresh install of your 9.0 OS and try to complete the updates after that.
As for the "vpc thing" - not stupid, you just weren't aware of the situation. Maybe if the VPC 1 software was better designed it wouldn't launch on an OS too new for it, or at least crash decently with an error message telling you that your OS was was too new for it, but it doesn't even do that.
2010, May 6 - 6:46am
#13
Mmm, the green iMac G3 "all-in-one"s - yes I had one too - only came in 266MHz, 333MHz, 400MHz or faster. There were only ever blue 350MHz iMacs. Is it a different speed, rather than the 350MHz you stated ?
Not really important, but some models will run up to OSX 10.4.11.
Just my memories of OS 9.0 and OS9.0.2 - they were pretty much awful, terrible stability and lacking in support for loads of devices, even the built-in modem on my older iMac G3. OS9.0.4 fixed most of this. OS9.1 was when it started to get good.
Use the link on my last pos to get access to all the OS9 updates from Apple. If you're not on dial-up, download them again, just to be sure.
2010, May 6 - 7:42am
#14
From a fading memory: isn´t there a essential firmware upgrade to be done for those iMacs if entering 9.1 and beyond?
2010, May 6 - 8:12am
#15
For some, maybe, but not these iMacs.
Again, some of the iMacs required firmware upgrades to run OSX 10.2 or later.
And this iMac probably had a few firmware upgrades, for Ethernet, CD/DVD drive, and maybe a basic firmware upgrade, but I don't think it was required for any OS. It would really help to nail down which iMac it is if we are to help.
The full Apple compatibility list is here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1835
Apologies, my previous link only covered OS9.1, for all the OS9 updates start here: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1387
Do have a suspicion that there is a small possibility that the restore CDs may not be for that iMac.
2010, May 6 - 11:12am
#16
Also from a fading memory: isn´t there a hack to install on any Mac from a install CD. The hack includes changing the (invisible) file listing accepted machine configs. I might have a step-by-step instruction somewhere. Best option is to get the right stuff of course.
2010, May 6 - 11:45am
#17
Bertyboy, it wasn't blue it was "bondi blue".
2010, May 6 - 5:36pm
#18
A 350MHz was either Indigo (the dark blue, repeated through the iMac G3 line on the low end models) or Blueberry. Very similar to Bondi Blue (I also had one of those until recently), but slightly different. Bondi blue was more aquamarine type blue. Still, not the 'green' the OP has.
SwedeBear,
Best option might be to put up an OS9.1 or OS9.2.1 retail CD image on megaupload for the OP, but I only have International English and only OS9.2.1. Reckon he may be after US English. And he doesn't have a CD burner.
2010, May 11 - 6:35pm
#19
the apple site lists my computer as a lime SL but it didnt come with 8.6. the cd i got with my computer has a white label and says "imac system restore" with 'ssw version 9.0' on the side in small letters. it came with a "imac software install" cd as well with other cds in an orange envelope with an apple on it. i dont know whether boot rom 1.2f2 is a firmware upgrade that came with the 9.2.1 update. i dont have the 9.1 install cd so could that hack also work on the downloaded update?
"he may be after us english" yes i am, because as i stated earlier i have 9.0 US. well, i was able to upgrade to 9.0.4 but i had to downgrade my open transport and usb device extensions so i could use my ethernet and an old usb floppy drive(the updated extensions caused them to not work anymore) oh, and what is OP?
2010, May 11 - 6:26pm
#20
"he may be after US english"
Yep, I saw your OS9.0 US, which is why I said it. I may have a selection of OS9.2.1 retail CDs. I may even have a US english version.
Would this be of any use ? given
- you don't have a CD burner in which to burn it
- you want OS9.0.4 or OS9.1
International English would be usable, it just means you'd be stuck with proper English - ie if you went to OS9.2.2, you'd need the International English updates.
2010, May 11 - 6:56pm
#21
could i just use the creator changer to make the 9.2.1 image mount in disk copy? i was lookin at 9.1 because i didnt know i could jump straight to 9.2.1 from 9.0 with the cd (its not possible with the download version). i want my extensions/control panels to still work and i remember (a little) that os 9.1 didnt support many things that worked fine in 9.0.
2010, May 11 - 8:50pm
#22
sorry, the OS9.2.1 we're discussing would be the full OS install. ie. you would ideally burn it to a CD and then boot your iMac from it, installing OS9.2.1 on the internal disk from scratch. It wouldn't care what if any OS you had currently installed.
Yes, I know you don't have a CD burner, but that was why I listed that as an issue. Do you have a burner in a PC ?
After all this, it sounds like you want to stay at OS9.0.4, so that your USB floppy drive works.
2010, May 13 - 9:38pm
#23
but i cant be doin "from scratch" because i cant be losin any of my files. i didnt mean that i wanted to stay at 9.0.4, i meant as long as the usb device extension and open transport extensions can be preserved, i could use any 9.x version. i was sayin that 9.1 was crashin on startup from some of my 3rd party extensions. i want 9.2.1 to be more stable than that.
2010, May 14 - 8:16am
#24
Make a clean install. Then the old sytem folder as well as the application folder will be preserved. All files you need on you new system you can move via drag and drop from the old system folder to the new one. The Mac OS 9 installer will tell you how to make a clean install. After everything is installed accoording to your needs trash the old system folder or, if you feel more secure about this, copy it to a stick, make a copy of disk warrior which includes plus optimizer (downloadable on this website) on a stick boot from a Mac OS 9 CD and rebuild your HD directory and optimize your HD.