put "eMac" and "OS9.2.2" into the search bar at the top of this site. Such a disc image has been posted, and some here have a similar eMac, who I'm sure will post a fresh disk image if the orginal link is dead.

I'm also sure I've posted a link to the OS9.2.2 required for my MDD. It should work on your eMac, I used to fire up my QuickSilver G4 2002 - which uses the Radeon 7500 too. Again, use the search.

Straight from the horses mouth - EveryMac.

"Please note that the "Combo" drive configuration (M8950LL/A) is capable of booting in both MacOS 9 and MacOS X. The second "Combo" configuration (M9252LL/A) and "SuperDrive" configurations (M8951LL/A and M8951LL/A), however, *cannot* boot in MacOS 9. These are capable of running MacOS 9 applications within the MacOS X "Classic" environment provided by MacOS X 10.4.11 and earlier."

Pls note: the second revision of the 1.0GHz eMac was IDENTICAL to the first, except for model number (why can't this boot OS9 then??).

"† On October 22, 2003, the eMac G4/1.0 (ATI) was "reconfigured" and assigned new model numbers. The second "low end" model -- M9252LL/A -- had 128 MB of RAM, a 40 GB hard drive and a "Combo" drive and sold for US$799. The second "high end" model -- M8951LL/A -- was internally identical to the first one but sold for US$1099. Please note that this second revision cannot boot MacOS 9."

I've used apple-history.com for my research. It says the October change was just a drop of the 1GHz Combo, and a price reduction on the SuperDrive model. So I think it's worth a go anyway. You need to understand though, that your model comes with AirPort Extreme (optionally), and to use it, you would have to boot into OSX, ie. AirPort was not availaible in OS9.

Here's the OS9 from my MDD http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IQ4XNTK2. It's an OSX Disk Image - which is how it was installed, a partial restore while booted into OSX - mount it and drag the items to your boot disk - assuming its been set up with OS9 drivers. Then maybe give it a quick check trying to start Classic - from the Classic System Pref in OSX.Then try booting from it. It still needs bit updating, like iTunes, QuickTime, etc.

The only really important file in the OS9 System Folder is the "Mac OS ROM", I think this one is v10.5.1. If it's not late enough, I'm sure we can pull one from the 800MHz eMac disk image - which I think is the "low-end" version of the eMac you have - and post it here, someone will have it.

I'm sure ROM v10.5.1 will be fine, the next one, v10.5.2 came with the FW800 MDD, which didn't boot OS9 (but ran it in Classic).

l3lood Teeth, I know exactly how you feel. As you could read in the thread, I was pretty desperate as well ... you may want to give a look to the user sheepmyshaver123's Mediafire archive he has posted somewhere here in the forums. I believe there is also the OS 9.2.2 install disc for the 800 Mhz eMac - and I can confirm it to work fine with the 1 Ghz model of mine.

BloodTeeth,

It's not a bootable image. It's what I tried to say, without actually saying it.

It's an OSX Disk Image - which is how it was installed, a partial restore while booted into OSX

1. Boot the eMac in OSX.
2. Uncompress the downlaoded file either on Windows or Mac OSX.
3. Mount the (uncompressed) "OS9 General.dmg" file you downloaded. There is no need to convert the .dmg to a .iso, just get the .dmg file onto the eMac. Then mount it with a double-click, or a right click and "Open With..." and select "DiskImageMounter"
4. When the disk image mounts, there will be a selection of folders in it, "System Folder", "Applications (OS 9)", etc. Drag them all to the eMac startup disk.
5. Then try selecting that System Folder in the Classic System Preference in OSX. Try to start Classic.
6. If you're feeling confident that it works, try selecting the OS9 System Folder in the Startup Disk System Preference.

Boot the eMac in OSX, not OS 9
Stop Classic, if it is already running.
If you already have a System Folder on the eMac boot disk:
does it work when you Start Classic ?
can you select it in the Startup Disk System Pref and reboot from it ? In which case you don't need my disc image.
If you can't boot boot from it - eiher trash it, or move it to another folder - just so there isn't a "System Folder" in the top level of the eMac boot disk.
Then copy all the contents of the mounted disc image to the top level of your eMac boot disc.
Carry on from step 5 above.

l3loodTeeth, doesn't the mediafire archive work? I'll try to locate it on my harddisk and reupload it for you on megaupload. This may take a while though, I'll post the link here tonight once it's ready

Well, glad I can help you out. Try this one http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C0NP2ZAR

(just finished uploading, it may take some time until it's available)

Did mine work in Classic ?

You can make any MacOs 9 (Z1) to work in your eMac.
I buy a second hand eMac that came with the 10.4 installed and no classic environment... what i do?
Well... i used to keep a backup of the macos 9.2.2 (Z1) system´s folder from my old G3 266mhz, i take it and copy it all to my hard disk.
Then i install the 10.4.11 ComboUpdate, which installs the prefpanel for Classic, and it works...
But i cant boot in classic...
In the search for what keeps the machine from boot in OS9, i discover that you need to get some classic app (app that works in the 9) for changing type and creator of files.
With this app you have to search for this three files in the 9´s system folder:

Classic
Classic Support
Classic Support UI

I found that the C.Support and C.Support UI where rotating its type and creator to dont let you boot in classic. Well, i do rotate them back. And that´s it!
If you found one of them locked...just unlock...
I open Preferences Panel, get the StartupDisk to boot in Classic and it works.

Do it at your own risk.
It Works for me.

I use an useful classic app called UtilityDog for do that. you need a decent knowledge of your mac to do the change of type/creator or your classic environment will get fkedup.

Welcome back to the group of OS 9 users, I3loodTeeth! don't forget to install Classilla browser if you'd like to surf the web with your eMac and/or do uploads to here. It really is a very fast OS 9 computer. You should check the RAM because a booting time of 15 minutes is definitely not normal. Mine took like 2-4 minutes maximum I'd say.

It would be great to see a new uploader, the both games you mentioned should easily qualify as abandonware. I suppose the problem is with the huge amount of discs that they come with. It takes some time to make them an image, stuff them and upload to megaupload. Funny though, I just imaged my copy of Wing Commander IV and was planning to upload today. What I'd personally love to see would be Super Wing Commander, I've been looking for this one for ages. So if this time you wanna do me and all the other helpers here a favor, check if it's in your collection and see if you can upload it.

Havoc has always been a fast paced game. I remember when I first played it on windows, the game speed has been exactly the same as it is up till now, and still very playable for me.

Oh, I know the speed problem. Check out http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/g3-throttle that might solve the speed issue

Woohoo !! Great news that you got the eMac up and running. Apologies about my OS9.2.2 uploads, they should have worked, but it's a moot point now since you have it working.

The memory might not be faulty, just badly seated (installed). Run the Apple System Profiler and check it reports the RAM you expect to see.

When I had issues with one of my RAM sticks in my MDD, I'd get quick boots, as nornmal, but then either Kernel Panics in OSX, or ASP (Apple System Profiler) would report the stick at half capacity, or as empty. In the end, because it had a lifetime guarantee, I asked to exchange it, "No problem" they said, and I had a new stick in seconds.

When I have had a 15 minute boot, it's because I've had new hardware, which OS9 may not support. Like a new Belkin 5 port USB2 PCI card. Or a disk volume > 200GB (the most OS9 will support). After the one 15-minute boot, every subsequent boot was fine.
In your case, it could be the installed disk, is it > 200GB ? or it could be an AirPort Extreme card (not supported in OS9).

Just a tip, if the hard disk is big enough and you have access to a copy of OSX 10.3 or 10.4, consider installing it on your eMac alongside OS9. I know it's just for OS9 use, but OSX can be used to help you in many ways if things go wrong in OS9.

You can disable the RAM checking on startup - hold down Apple & Option keys, as you open the Memory control panel. You will have an extra checkbox for disabling memory check at startup - this can save 10 to 15 seconds if you have more than 32MB RAM. If you have HUNDREDS of megabytes RAM, this can save even more - if you have faulty RAM, this can save monumental waits, and error messages...

Excellent news. I think the "rogue" 15 minute startup was due to the AirPort Extreme card. It was only an optional extra in the eMac, but if you have one, it would cause OS9 an issue the first time it encountered it.

So the RAM looks like the culprit ?? You could always try pulling each of the sticks in tun and see which one is giving the errors. An eBay 512MB shouldn't be more £6-£8, an eBay 256MB is about £2-£3. But of course, check to make sure they're both seated properly. This is something to be done ESPECIALLY after moving any computer, and an absolute must after buying a vomputer - I bought an old Digital Audio G4 a while ago, advertised with 512MB (2x256MB). when it arrived I checked and found another 512MB stick was in it, but not fully inserted. Fixed it, booted up and I had 1GB RAM. It was in the slot, but they hadn't made the effort to push it all the way in so that the lugs on the ends clip into place. My win, I got an £8 stick as a bonus with the Mac I paid £10 for.