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2009, September 7 - 9:52am

bertyboy

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Bittorrent "chatter"

I've been absolutely impressed by the speed and efficiency in which Bittorrent was set up for the larger downloads, and how it is quickly adapted for smaller downloads. I completely understand the need to withdraw the torrent tracker for the exceptionally large files.

I'm sure we all do our own bit by limiting the download speed of our torrents (I do it to 10KB/s) to prolong the download, in the vain hope of someone else using the same torrent. And I'm sure we all don't mind seeding for many days after the download is complete. But I've mentioned before, it's very rare to get someone actually downloading the same file in those 4-7 days. Although I did once get a 4.71:1 share ratio on one download, I was impressed.

I may have 4-5 torrents seeding at any one time, as usual with no one downloading. But this seems to generate a large amount of bittorrent chatter, about 1KB/s in each direction. Presumably keeping in touch with the tracker. Over 24 hours, this amounts to about 160MB, over 4 days, 640MB, of chatter.

If we're all doing this, with different torrents, it must be costing someone a fortune.

Have I missed something ? I don't have any answers, except from maybe enabling the tracker for only 5 days per month or so. Don't know if that would make it any better, or not (if we're all downloading different files).

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2009, September 11 - 2:30am

udderdude000

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A better idea might be to use filesharing sites like rapidshare, mediafire or megaupload.

2009, September 11 - 7:04am

SwedeBear

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RS, MF and MU are problematic in that sense you can´t dl those files you want in a row. You´re capped with a certain number of files or MBs and then have to wait 15 mins, an hour or when there´s a download slot available for your country.
Unless you pay and that money would be better spent here.
Else you have to reupload the files when somebody wants a image that´s not in high demand or RS/MF/MU decides to change their policy without further notification.
And there´s a many that are caught behind firewalls without the possibility to connect these services.
My wish is a dedicated server for all those files or the second best the server/tracker running the torrents, a bit like TPB.

2009, September 11 - 7:10am

Euryale

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The pirate Bay is the WORST Option, we went through that already,

MU, RS etc.. are just a temporary solution for the Admns. while they find and move to a better
hosting,

personally, I don't mind waiting,

2009, September 11 - 7:58am

SwedeBear

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I´m not talking about TPB; I´m talking about a dedicated torrent tracker with a web interface, keeping statistics and an eye on seeders and leechers. A community with this possibilities to communicate and meanings to run the torrents for the community. In this case TPB is of no use, likewise RS/MF/MU.

2009, September 11 - 7:58am

SwedeBear

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And yes, best would be a dedicated server solution.

2009, September 11 - 12:33pm

bertyboy

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Yes, but my original post was about the bittorrent chatter between those of us seeding torrents for an extended period of time and the Macintosh Garden torrent tracker. If I generate 180MB of chatter in 24 hours just by ,myself, there's 50GB of bandwidth across a month if 10 of us just seed.

2009, September 11 - 4:51pm

Balrog

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BitTorrent would work well if we had full control over the server. Unfortunately, this requires some capital (good hosting requires us to pre-pay for 1 year).

With Amazon S3, we have absolutely no control over ratios and such.

2009, September 11 - 5:12pm

bertyboy

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Not complaining, but just wondering / asking, if seeding for an extended period (to help the bandwidth on the server) is actually helpful, or does it cost you more, if I generate 40MB of chatter to seed a 10MB file.

If you say, "It's no problem, it's still 10x better than before", or devise some rough-and-ready guidance for just how long to seed, we'll all do it, ie. 1 hour for every 5MB of file size.

I was hinting, and hoping that you may be able to limit the torrent tracker to 5-7 consecutive days per month, or something like that, so we're all downloading and seeding at the same time. Sounds like it's not so easy.

2009, September 11 - 6:36pm

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SwedeBear

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@ bertyboy: ah, just commenting this fileserver thing cropping up here & there.