I've been trying to run Pirates Gold under Basilisk II with system 7.5.3 with no luck. The application starts up briefly (I can just read the "Pirates" name in the menu bar) but then it quits immediately. Anyone know what's going on? I tried another old game, in this case PGA tour golf II, just to see if it would work, and that game's graphics never loaded.
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2009, October 14 - 3:30am
#1
Any luck running Pirates! Gold under Basilisk II?
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2009, October 14 - 4:33am
#2
To help diagnose your problem:
1. What host system are you using?
2. What version of Basilisk II are you using? Where did you download it?
3. What ROM are you using?
4. Did you install the OS yourself, or download a prepared disk image?
Also: You should upgrade to Mac OS 7.5.5
2009, October 14 - 9:42am
#3
And I suspect that IF it was released in 1992, it would be compatible with System 7.0 or perhaps System 7.1.
System 7.5 broke a lot of software.
But most likely is that you should set a suitable screen size and colour depth in your emulator, ie. 256 or 16 colours.
2009, October 16 - 9:36pm
#4
Oh man, thanks y'all. I tried switching to 256 colors and 640 x 480 (that's what I had on the old Performa as a kid) and the screen went kinda grey and nothing worked. I restarted and the thing (this is basilisk II build 19? I Think and the quadra ROM, system 7.5.3) and it reverted itself to thousands of colors.
2009, October 17 - 2:17am
#5
It seems that you are using Basilisk II for OS X, using an old version of 2006 from Nigel Peterson.
Here's a new version that was built earlier this month:
http://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5887
Try again to set your color depth in this new version and see if it works.
2009, October 17 - 7:35am
#6
Mmm, don't dis the old version of Basilisk II too much.
If you have a PPC Mac with OSX 10.2 or OSX 10.3, this older version runs significantly better than the latest (Java) version. I have my old version set up for a choice of System 7.0.1, System 7.5.3 andOS 8.1. It runs perfectly on my MDD / 10.3.9. The latest Java for 10.3.9 (Java 1.4) has a few memory leaks, which I can live with, with 2GB and my Mac Pro doing all the heavy work (with 24GB).
( vMac and mini vMac are set to cover System 6.0.8 and 7.0.1. ).
2009, October 17 - 7:40am
#7
You're right. The old version is pretty good for old systems. But I don't think that most people are using 10.2 or 10.3.
The OP didn't, however, say what his host system is. It could be that he is using an older machine...
2009, October 17 - 1:20pm
#8
And we don't know if it's because of System 7.5.5, or if Pirates Gold was 32-bit, or needs to run in 24-bit. As said, the 32-bit OS's broke a lot of older software.
Edit:
OK, Pirates Gold works for me. Basilisk II v16-classic, Quadra ROM, System 7.5.3r2, 8MB RAM, 800x600 and 256 colours video. Sound off. 32-bit addressing (Memory control panel) on. 3200K assigned to PG.
Ironically, although it plays well, I hate it compared to the original B&W version (with its Venice font). All the colour and fancy typography get in the way of playing.
2009, October 19 - 3:08am
#9
I think that the OP has left. 
Was there ever a Mac or PC port of "Pirates! Gold." I really dug that one on the Sega Genesis back in the day. It was a really nice update. I enjoyed it a bit more than the update that was published a few years back.
2009, October 19 - 4:33pm
#10
I'm running 10.4.11 on a 2003(?) iBook G4. Oh man! I loved PG on Genesis, that was the inspiration to download it from the garden! If it makes any difference, I have 800MHz and 256 MB. So this machine originally had like 10.2 or something and I've updated (and it feels like 10.4 is pushing it).
2009, October 19 - 7:33pm
#11
Shouldn't make any difference, but can you detail your Basilisk Ii setup, like I took the effort to do ?
Sound off might be the crucial setting, but list all.
2009, October 20 - 2:03am
#12
Pirates runs fine on my Basilisk setup. You really should detail your system. We can fix it for you.
Meanwhile: Pirates! Gold was the best reason to own a Sega!!
You should think about maybe looking for the 2004 remake if you haven't already tried it. That version was very faithful to the original. Very little was changed except for the graphics. The gameplay was very, very similar. There was an OS X version.
2009, October 21 - 3:29am
#13
Actually, I did the Basilisk II install from the guides page; I believe I followed it to a tee. But anyway, from the Get Info box: Basilisk II Version 1.0 Copyright 97-2006 Christian Bauer et al. Mac OS X port 19. This is a PPC ibook g4 (wait isn't that redundant?) with 10.4. I'm running basilisk on 68040 setting with the quadra rom I downloaded and system 7.5.3. I just tried with the sound off (via the Basilisk prefs pane), no luck. Also, FPU is not enabled, and I've allotted 16mb for RAM. The color depth is set to 16bits, is this the color y'all are talking about?
2009, October 21 - 8:18am
#14
Perfect set of details.
I have a Quadra650 ROM, with it emulating a 68030, Mac model specified as IIci. 32 bit colour, but I reduce this (using the control strip) to 8 bit / 256 colours for running Pirates Gold. Like you the FPU is disabled.
This works for me, with System 7.5.3r2. I do have other Basilisk II setups, for System 7.0.1 and OS 8.1 which use different ROMs and emulate different CPUs.
2009, October 21 - 8:39am
#15
@bertyboy
What ROM do you use for your OS 8.1 set up?
I use the Quadra650 emulating 68040, is there another one better than this?
does it make any difference?
or ROMS are just for Starting up the Program?
the ONLY game I've had trouble playing in Basilisk is the Comanche (I like flight Sims)
it doesn't run at all, funny thing is, this game Runs great in Softmac Emulator.
2009, October 21 - 1:12pm
#16
I have a Quadra 700 ROM (I used to have a 700, always wanted a 900) I use for 68040 and OS8.1.
Unfortunately I didn't keep my IIsi or IIci ROM images from when I had those Macs. Didn't get a ROM image from my Classic II either, I still have my SE, so I can get one from there for earlier systems.
The ROM holds most of the code for interacting with the built-in hardware and has most of the toolbox routines as well. It's not that important any more, most of the requireed features come in the OS, but the ROM will still define what key functionality is supported by the other hardware in the Mac. Again I don't think it's a big issue in emulation, say with an older ROM your emulated Mac may not support USB, Ethernet, a built-in modem, wireless, etc (you get the idea) - so what? you won't be using any of that under emulation.
Just one caveat, some software may require a 68040, for the reason it uses some of the 68040 functionality (over what was in a 68030), if it's not in the ROM, it's not going to work.
2009, October 21 - 6:10pm
#17
Ok, I understood,
that was good info, thanks a lot for your answer.